When Marvel Studios, Paramount Pictures and director Jon Favreau began casting Iron Man 2, many names popped up that made a lot of sense to me. Scarlett Johansson was an obvious choice to play the seductive secret agent Black Widow, while Mickey Rourke's hiring as the tech-savvy super villian Whiplash was inspired. But I was puzzled when I heard that legendary laugh-meister Garry Shandling would be joining the production. Where were Favreau & co. going to fit him into the Marvel Universe?
As time went on I learned that Shandling would lend his skills to a character named Senator Stern and as soon as the teaser trailer for the film hit, I found that Shandling was born to portray a no-nonsense politician who has a courtroom clash with playboy protagonist Tony Stark. The comedic sparks were flying on the set that day and now, with Iron Man 2 on Blu-ray and DVD, you can relive the hilarity of that soon to be classic scene anytime you want!
We sat down for an exclusive talk with Mr. Shandling to talk about the current state of comedy and his work on Iron Man 2. Read on for the complete interview and be sure to get your hands on Iron Man 2 today!
Q: What do you think about the current state of American comedy?
Garry Shandling: You know it’s funny, coincidentally, I bumped into David Mamet at a function last night - I’ve never met him – and he came up to me and he said “Gary, David Mamet” and I said “Oh my gosh, I always had you confused with Neil Simon.” Which I think is hopefully a good opener for David Mamet. He couldn’t help but smile and I think that phrase is very specific: “He couldn’t help but smile.” And he had told me that he had done a couple of videos for Funny or Die, and I said to him “I have to check it out, because those fellas are friends of mine, Adam McKay and Chris Henchy, over there at that production company that Will has, and I’m about three months behind. I check in about every three months, which I have to change, but I love the idea that certainly online we can, on that site, do quick, short things. We discussed several things that I’ll eventually get to doing on that site. We’re going to shoot a kind of retro, very dirty version of the 20,000 Dollar Pyramid. Which I can’t do for you now, but I’ve done it before with my buddy Alan (inaudible) and we want to shoot that and put that on there. Both Adam and Chris play basketball here so we talk about some of that stuff in between games occasionally, so I love that particular website.
The state of television, seems to be, that in fact what I was thinking when I was describing the Larry Sanders Show to HBO in ’92, I had a vision of the show that is basically what it is, you know it’s exactly what it is, strangely enough. I realized that I could not use any other shows that were on TV even as examples for – in segments even, I couldn’t even use pieces of other shows as an example – so, that show must have been different because I’m working backwards, you see. I remember when I described that show to them, I could not describe it other than directly, what my vision was and I know that they couldn’t quite visualize it yet. But Michael Fuchs had given me a 13 show commitment so, I was lucky because they trusted me because they know I’m tougher on myself than they would be, as a critic, I’m tougher on myself. And they knew the first series, and that thing was also different, so we were really constructing basically, my audience is Stephen Hawking. You know, a man who writes the scientific explanation of how something can come out of nothing, is exactly what The Larry Sanders Show is and how we worked, so there was something coming out of nothing because there was no precursor to it exactly other than I was influenced by The King of Comedy where Scorsese has a cut backstage to a talk show that I think Jerry Lewis played a character that hosted and it was very cinematic. And I remembered that as a way of delineating what happened in front of the curtain and what happened behind the curtain, and so I think then the naturalness of the acting and the decision not to use, of course, a laugh track and then the strong reality of it and the organic quality that’s not forced at that period of time was only appropriate for cable television. The networks, you know might have – you can look up ’92 and see what’s on, it’s quite different than Larry Sanders and quite different than what’s on now. We’ve seen the slow disappearance of the regular old school sitcom and I wasn’t interested in doing a sitcom. So, I think some of the shows, there are certain similarities and tone on the broadcast networks that didn’t exist before Larry Sanders and I think that probably it showed people what could be done and it probably had some influence. I’ve been told by others that it’s been an influence on them, Ricky Gervais being one, and then others and that’s an interesting circumstance and yet here we are, speaking in this moment.
It’s also, by the way if I may, it’s also the way Jon Favreau works and when I was shooting Iron Man 2, the same time I was making this box set – or helping out with the box set, I didn’t have as much a hand in this that I’ve had in some of the others – and he also believes in this organic kind of spontaneous acting and that’s why he called me and I think the DVD of that is coming out as well and I’m sure it’s gonna be evident from the outtakes in that and the documentary and backstage look at how that movie was done, you’ll see the willingness to create in the moment that Jon brings. And then Downey just loves to improvise, and to look and to reinvent constantly. Those are the people I love working with.
Q: In the main court room scene that you were in on Iron Man 2, he (Downey) was bringing the laughs and you were really playing the character more straight. What was it like sharing the set with him there?
GS: Well, it was fantastic, I had been in Hawaii for three weeks prior to starting that movie, in fact Jon had called me in Hawaii to offer me this role, and when I got back from Hawaii I went in and sat with Robert and Jon to see where our sensibilities lie so that we could see how it worked, and we really hit it off. And I am so challenged by Robert and sparked by Robert that, again, on the DVD, there are so many different takes. Some in which I’m which I’m funny and some in which I’m straight and there’s so much other material because we just would go on and on and around and around. I think that that Senator if not played straight, is not going to communicate effectively what that scene is about. And so, my first very strong intention was to be honest and true to the scene and the character, but you know there’s still a twist in that guy that isn’t exactly of the norm. And that’s what Jon sensed. He called me up and he said, “What are you doing there in Hawaii?” and I said, “Just hanging out,” and he said, “I don’t think this is the time to withdraw,” and he said, “Come on man, I think we can really do something no one expects in this thing and then we can look to make it a little longer because it’s just been on my mind,” and he said, “I want to be there to support you to go to some place that no one expects including us.” And that’s what got me into it, because he was talking about the work itself and the style of work.
Q: Will you be reprising the role in future movies (The Avengers, Iron Man 3)?
GS: They have not spoken to me about reprising that character, which I would do in a second. I mean I really rarely have a good time working because I need to be around the quality of people that was in and around this movie and the Marvel people were fantastic but they have not yet mentioned anything about doing more, but I think I heard conceivably I could get free parking.
You know, I feel, I could impress somebody with free parking to the next Marvel project. One of my pitches for the end – it was a joke – was, I said I’d like to say “I’m Iron Man” as he did in the first one and I said to Robert that you should say, “No I’m Iron Man,” and then they would have an argument with him about who really is Iron Man. When Jon called me and he said, “I'm doing Iron Man 2 and there’s a part for you,” I said, “What kind of suit do I get to wear?” and he goes, “A regular suit.” And I said, “I mean no, what kind of weapons will be on it?” We hadn’t gotten to the senator part yet, so I said, “What kind of weapons will be on it?” and he said, “No, it’s a suit and tie, you play a senator.” Yeah, it’s a three piece, there’s a vest, a tie, a jacket, pants and a belt.” So I said, “So I get no weapons?” I brought a gun, I had a gun in my pocket the whole time.
Q: Maybe we can get some sort of arm piece or a helmet or something.
GS: From your mouth to God’s ears.
Q: GQ called you the comedian’s comedian’s comedian, what does that mean? And how do you feel about being the comedian’s comedian’s comedian?
GS: I think what they mean by the comedian’s comedian’s comedian is I am the comedian’s comedian unless they watch too long and then they change their mind. Then I’m just a comedian. So I’m the comedian’s comedian slash comedian again. I end up as a comedian, I think that’s what they mean. They’re giving me a compliment and then taking it right away.
Q: Who are the three entertainers that you follow or most look forward to seeing new stuff from?
GS: Oh well, look. For the sake of this conversation and the fact that we have just discussed it, I have two projects coming out on DVD in two months which I find hilarious if I may say somewhat facetiously, what about a high point in my career that I have two DVDs coming out. But, here you go it feels like I’m selling DVDs today, so while we’re on that I think the Scott Pilgrim DVD comes out the first week of October, it comes out as well in this time period. And I have nothing to do with that except, I’m a big fan of Michael Cera and I would recommend also picking that one up. Probably I would go in this order: Iron Man 2, Scott Pilgrim, and then God forbid anyone has any money left, Larry Sanders: The Complete Series.
Q: If you think that any comedian could be elected to be Commander in Chief, who do you think that would be?
GS: Well, I mean Al Franken’s already got a head start. I think we need a Native American in as Chief of Staff, if Rahm Emanuel leaves, we’ve got to get a Native American into the administration and it seems natural that that should be Chief of Staff. I think it’s an insult to the Native Americans that it’s not a Native American – it’s the Chief of Staff. So there’s the discussion of Rahm Emanuel.
Q: I was always hoping for Dana Carvey so that way we can get his own opinions and more imitations of George Bush as well.
GS: Well, Dana Carvey would be great and Jimmy Fallon does some great impressions and he would be great. And I wouldn’t leave out Sarah Silverman just as a nice big change, that would be big, big change.
It's a very light week in role call land. What a shame--there's not one sexy star I can talk about (trust me, this is a problem here at Hollywood.com). But I do have the freakish pop singer/superstar category covered. Honestly, what is wrong with Michael Jackson? Boy, I'd really like to go into it, but there's too much to talk about and I just don't have time. Let's focus on the casting choices he's made for his new video "You Rock My World" for now. He's snagged Marlon Brando (who replaces Robert De Niro), some of the cast from The Sopranos, Benicio Del Toro and Chris Tucker to play some parts, and I just have one question--what do you think Jackson did to entice talent like that? Maybe he's paying them buckets of money. Maybe they feel sorry for him. Nevertheless, Jackson, whose career is really taking a turn for the worse with spiraling record sales and little public interest, has decided to return to his glory days by producing this $30 million video, jam-packed with big names--basically making up for a pretty average pop tune none of the radio stations want to play. It's sad, really.
Director and special-effects aficionado James Cameron has decided to concentrate on comic books--and once again, water--for his next project. He will be developing a live-action version of the comic book Fathom, which follows a beautiful young girl named Aspen Matthews. Aspen is found on an abandoned yacht with no memory of her past. Don't you just hate that? You're on a yacht, you're having fun and then--wham! You forget everything. But I digress... The girl grows up, becomes an Olympic swimmer and a marine biologist. During her research she discovers not only a mysterious underwater race but her own water-based powers. This is right up Cameron's alley; he simply loves the water, doesn't he? With his films The Abyss and Titanic, he's getting a name for himself filming epic water adventures. He's even doing a series of underwater specials for ABC with the late Jacques Cousteau's son, Jean-Michel. Someday, I'll have to ask him what his fascination with the deep blue sea is.
Sammy Davis Jr. only wished he could have starred in the latest unbelievable script coming out of Hollywood. Take a gander at this: apparently, talent/literary house The Endeavor Agency has decided to get a little rat-happy. They are hawking a remake of the 1971 rodent-infested Willard written by Glen Morgan and writer-director James Wong. You remember Willard, don't you? That happy story about a socially persecuted young man who gets back at his co-workers with a blood-thirsty rat, starring Bruce Davison. Right. On Tuesday, the agency created a stir by sending the reworked spec script around town, in a cage--with rats. Now, tell me what studio executive is going to pass something like that up? DreamWorks principals Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg and Miramax co-chairmen Harvey and Bob Weinstein were among some of the recipients of the lovely "package." Where's the rat poison?
Michael Cimino is returning to the director's chair with a new project, Man's Fate, a drama set in Shanghai against the backdrop of the Chinese revolution. Based on French author Andre Malraux's novel La condition humaine (The Human Condition), the film follows several Europeans living in Shanghai and the emotional bonds they develop during the tragic turmoil of the onset of China's Communist regime. Cimino is looking at several A-list actors, including Johnny Depp, Daniel Day-Lewis, John Malkovich, Uma Thurman and French actor Alain Delon. Poor Cimino. His career started so big with the Academy Award-winning The Deer Hunter, but has been forever stamped with the ugly label of directing the classic textbook-case flop Heaven's Gate. He'll never be able to shrug this off, unless he directs another Oscar winner. Maybe Fate will be his ticket out of the Gate.
And in television...
Usually I stick with the movies, but this television role call caught my eye. Actress Juliette Lewis is going to make a guest appearance on ABC's Dharma & Greg, playing Jenna Elfman's childhood friend. Now, what the heck happened to Juliette Lewis? It used to be that when a movie actress started doing television, it meant their careers were going downhill. This isn't the case anymore, with the advent of cable and the quality of material being put on television. However, in Lewis' case, we may be looking at old times. If it were Friends or Fraiser, that would be one thing but Dharma & Greg? She came out like gangbusters when she started her career with Woody Allen's Husbands and Wives and Oliver Stone's Natural Born Killers, and especially in her heart-wrenching performance in Martin Scorsese's Cape Fear. But then came The Evening Star and The Other Sister, and, well, you see where I'm going. Lewis on Dharma & Greg is just an interesting step on what still could be a promising career--if she got a better agent.